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Example: Thoughtseize should be bad in Grixis Deaths Shadow against Abzan as the matchup is so grindy, but you need a way to stop Liliana of the Veil before it hits the battlefield and uses its -2 ability

Meanwhile, in Modern, apart from Tron, Alpine Moon shuts down several heavily played creaturelands like Celestial Colonnade, Blinkmoth Nexus, and Inkmoth Nexus

And why do people want them so badly

Given its lower entry price compared to the SAR, its an excellent choice for fans who want Greninja without breaking the bank

Return each of them to the battlefield with a necrodermis counter on it

at least not without a significant face lift.